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Clashes and Captivations in Magi Astrology ™

    Clashes and Turbulent Aspects are terms in Magi Astrology for stressful aspect angles. These include all Squares and Oppositions. Also considered to be Clashes are the Quincunx, Contra-parallel, and Contra-latitude if the aspect includes Saturn. See Read Magi definition of Clashes.

    Several serious clashes are known for their ability to cause trouble in all types of relationships- love relationships, friendships, and business associations. The two most difficult clashes are the Heartbreak Clash and the Nuclear Clash.
 

The Heartbreak Clash      see list of celebs with this clash

The classic heartbreak clash is a Saturn-Chiron clash, or Sat./Chi. midpoint clash with Chiron. Additional heartbreak-type clashes are Saturn clashes with the other Romance Planets, Venus and Neptune. These clashes often begins with a powerful attraction. These clashes can hold a couple together with the illusion of love, sometimes for years, before disappointment sets in and the clash ultimately breaks one or both of their hearts. Often there are many, smaller heartbreaks along the way. The Saturn person (the person who contributes the Saturn to the inter-aspect) is more often the heart-breaker, and the Chiron (or Romance Planet) person is more often the one who ends up with the broken heart. This seems to happen even when the couple truly loves each other and the Saturn person has no intention of doing harm.

The Heartbreak Clash can be overcome by a perfect or nearly-perfect wedding date. More information on the importance of a favorable wedding date: Magi Weddings. One Heartbreak Clash can also be overpowered by three Cinderella Linkages under certain circumstances.

The Nuclear Clash      see list of celebs with this clash

Saturn-Jupiter clash or Sat./Jup. midpoint clash with Jupiter. Represents major differences between the couple that can never be resolved. Often these are differences in key areas that are integral to the way each person lives their lives. Couples with Nuclear Clashes often don't stay together for long- these key differences just don't let the relationship take root and grow.

The Nuclear Clash is best worked with by "agreeing to disagree." Since there will never be a meeting of the minds on certain issues, in order to stay together the couple must learn to accept these differences and leave them alone.

The Impossible Dream Clash    see list of celebs with this clash

 Venus-Chiron Clash. A sign of possible Heartbreak. Relationship happiness is seemingly not meant to be.

The Clash of War

Saturn-Saturn clash, could also be Sat.-Jup. midpoint clash with Saturn. Agreement on any issues- big or small- is hard to find. The couple battles over everything.

The Nuclear Heartbreak Clash     see list of celebs with this clash

Saturn/Jupiter midpoint clash with Chiron. An extremely damaging clash- can be highly crazy-making and create unbelievable Heartbreak for the Chiron person.

The Saturn-Vesta Clash  Incompatibility Super Clash "Hurt feelings clash"*

The Saturn person may not care deeply about the Vesta person or may harbor animosity toward the Vesta person. The Saturn person can hurt the Vesta person's feelings seemingly without caring. Almost as bad as a Heartbreak Clash.

The Saturn-Neptune Clash "Ball and chain clash"*

This clash can create the feeling for the Neptune that the Saturn person is a dead weight, a serious drain of time and energy, or just a bummer to be around.

The Saturn-Mars Clash "Cruelty clash"*

Mutual intolerance. A Classic Schism aspect. Strong antagonism. The Saturn person brings out the worst in the Mars person. The Mars person may actually feel their energy level is lowered around the Saturn person. The pair can be so cruel to each other when angry that it may to hard to repair the damage done.

The Saturn-Pluto Clash "Clash of the Titans"*

Can be a relationship-breaker. Can lead to battles-royal over every disagreement. The couple is likely behave so destructively during arguments that relationship repair and forgiveness can be difficult.

The Saturn/Chiron Midpoint-Sun or Earth  Heartbreak Bondage

Holds people together but can lead to heartbreak.

Other Saturn Clashes

All Saturn Clashes create some stress in a relationship. Refer to Magi Planetary Symbolisms to help interpret Clashes not listed here.

    Information on Sexual Clashes

*Note: Starred terms are my own, and are not official terms in Magi Astrology.

    When one person's Saturn (or their Saturn-Chiron or Saturn-Jupiter Midpoints) forms a linkage OR clash with the Sun, Moon (if exact birth time is known), Venus, Jupiter, Neptune, Chiron, or Earth of another person, the Saturn person has enormous control over the other person. Read Magi definition of linkages.  In a Captivation, we call the Saturn person the "Trapper" and the other person the "Captive." Captivations formed by planetary linkages are not clashes, which all indicate some form of incompatibility. All captivations indicate a hold or bond, but not soulmate potential or happiness. They hold a relationship together, sometimes seemingly against the Captive's will. The Captive will often feel trapped, or that they can't live without the Trapper. Captivations give the Trapper the upper hand in the relationship.

    Captivations are looked at differently when there is Saturn Balance. This is called a Mutual Captivation, and is not considered to be a One-Sided Captivation, because it is not one-sided. A Mutual Captivation holds both people in the relationship- how healthy or unhealthy this is depends on the individual natal charts and the other Linkages and Clashes in the couple's combined charts. About Saturn Balance.

Sexual Captivations

     A Captivation becomes a Sexual Captivation when there are also Juno Sexual Linkages in the couple's charts. Sexual Captivations create extreme sexual intensity coupled with an imbalance of power unless there is Saturn Balance. Can create desperate obsessions and can be very destructive. All sorts of negative scenarios can play out with Sexual or other serious Captivations. Read Magi definition of Juno Sexual Linkages.

Emotional Captivations

    An Emotional Captivation is created whenever  one person's Saturn (or their Saturn-Chiron or Saturn-Jupiter Midpoints) makes a linkage OR a clash to another person's Romance Planet (Chiron, Neptune or Venus).  Emotional Captivations are Saturn Bonds with an added emotional element.

         See a complete list of celebs with Captivations and Sexual Captivations
 

    Can captivations be mutual?
    Yes. As shown the the examples above, they often are. Mutual captivations can balance power in a relationship with the crucial caveats noted below.

    Are captivations always bad?
    Captivations do give the Trapper the upper hand in the relationship. If the Trapper is a person of high integrity and maturity who genuinely and unselfishly loves the Captive, AND the pair have solid soulmate linkages, AND the pair have very few if any serious clashes, then the Trapper will have much influence, but it isn't likely to be toxic. In that case, the pair can be called Captivator and Captive.

    If the Trapper is unethical, immature, doesn't genuinely love the Captive, if the couple have weak or no soulmate linkages, OR if the couple has toxic clashes- look out!

    If YOU are a Trapper/Captivator, the future of the relationship depends on your wisdom and benevolence. If you truly love this person and want what is best for them, everything can work out fine. If you consciously or unconsciously and repeatedly use your influence against the Captive, sooner or later they are likely to want to make their escape.

    If YOU are a Captive, please don't rationalize this all away. You owe it to yourself to be honest with yourself. Captivations are only one facet of a relationship, but they are significant in that they can distort the way a Captive sees the relationship. If you are in a relationship that has your family and close friends baffled or you suspect isn't good for you, please reassess things in the light of this information and take whatever action is necessary for your survival and well-being.
 

    All clashes which include Saturn can create an imbalance of power in the relationship unless there is Saturn Balance. Saturn Balance is determining by counting all the Saturn linkages and clashes in a couple's CAC. For Saturn Balance, the number of Saturn Aspects in which Person A is the Saturn person should be roughly equivalent to the number of Saturn aspects in which Person B is the Saturn person. This creates balance between the two people- though each has some power over the other, neither is in total control. If the Saturn aspects are not in balance, the ratio of aspects in which Person A is the Saturn person to the aspects in which Person B is the Saturn person reveals the relative balance of power present in the relationship.
 

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